Burning Crusade - Who are you taking to 70?

[pogozorro]

Courtesy of Mr. Ancient Bone Bow!

This is mainly just a preliminary list to see who is going where with what character in the expansion. It'll also give any potential newcomers a look at what kind of class they may want to start if they are on the fence.

I know many of you have multiple high-level alts, but please just list your primary character. The one you think you'll be taking all the way to 70 first. The list below is based on what I've heard in the past, so it may be wrong. If I forget you or I list the wrong character, post in this thread and let me know.

Druid
Kurinden (Pogo)
Lathan (Postal)
Pretzel (Ned)

Warrior
Wintersound (JR)
Slappyjoe (Circuit)
Falhawk (Falhawk)
Thodred (Q)

Priest
Fitty (Fitty)
Agramir (DrJonez)
Tai (Tai)

Warlock
Jolissa (Melissa)
Taitoo (Tai)
Puck (Shadowrat)
Foe (Foe)

Mage
Quaron (Q)
Motean (Orion)
Pokeypokey (Paladin)
Arlexis (Fool)
Gloinstinen (Teflonatron)

Paladin
Zurrock (Heather)
Krimet (Kermit)

Rogue
Golan (Budly)
Bridude (Bridude)
Ikeva (Pumpkin King)
Slither (Snake)
Llydia (JR)

Hunter
Kurathis (Patton)
Lunatick (Tick)

I know I'm missing people and I'm probably wrong about a few characters. That Mage list seems awful short. It isn't because I don't like you (i'm a liar), I just forgot.

[FoeKilla]

1 - Foe

2 - PvE advancement. Quests and all the good stuff that made the trip to 60 so fun

3 - maybe Ned

[jackrabbit]

1) Wintersound
2) PvE, new honor methods.
3) I have over a week of vacation left. I'll probably take a week off the day I get the expansion. Sad but true.

[Paladin]

1. Pokeypokey if he's at 60 by then.

2. PvE

3. JR's idea sounds good to me. I don't know if I can take a week off at a shot, but likely I'll try burning vacation days here and there on it.

[Avalon616]

1. Jolissa (obviously)

2. PVE. I'm not much of a PvPer anyways, though that might change when I hit 60.

3. Prolly not when it first comes out. I am a broke college student, so if I can budget to afford it, then I'll get it.

[Kermit]

1. Krimet (assuming I make 60 by the time it comes out)

2. Don't care. My focus is on playing with others and doing whatever a group of people is up to doing.

3. I will get it within a week or so if it coming out.

My one question is this: How do they plan on handling people that do/don't have the expansion pack on the same servers? Will everyone with the expansion be magically transported to another realm or with there be a mix, with some characters able to reach 70 on Arthas and others not?

[Circuit]

I would think that the people without the expansion just wouldn't be able to level up further or access the new content.

[pogozorro]

If you do not have the expansion you will not be able to access the new instances, the Outlands, nor will you be able to go past 60. Oh, and no new races either.

Basically, anything in the expansion you can see but not touch.

[Budly]

I am truly undecided who to take. Bleve is who I am having the most fun with, however, I have a feeling that rogues will be few and far between.

PvE for me.

[Sir Lucius]

I will not be getting the expansion. I liked raiding in WoW, and overall wow was a pretty fun game. But the game is built on class balance where support is more important than dps. Getting to 60 is a pain in the ass. I really don't feel like doing it all over again. And if 60-70 is like 1-60, then I imagine I would be bored out of my mind for the grind that would involve.

When I look at mmorps their timesinks are so obvious. Placing things far away, travel distances -- all time sinks.

WoW has some great dungeons and areas to explore -- it's probably the best part of the game. It'd be great if I could experience all that on an accelerated server where XP and gold gain is multiplied by 3 or some such thing.

[Q]

I am undecided as to whether I'll level Gundar or Quaron to 70; it will probably depend on what other characters are playing. I'm sure I'll play both to some degree.

However, if it takes as long to get from 60 to 70 as it did from 1-60 then Blizzard better have a hell of a lot more content for non-raiders.

[Patton]

1. Kurathis. Shocker, right?

2. PvE, but I like the sound of the new Honor system. We'll see how it works out.

3. I'll likely get it the first day it is available.

I think we should regroup pretty soon (IE: before the expansion) and hit the dungeons hard. Pick up the gear we need before it hits so we can dig right in. UBRS, LBRS, DM, Scholo, UD, etc.

I'm going to try to set aside some time to play a little more and get back into it. Volleyball is beginning to fizzle out, so unless I pick up an indoor team, I won't be doing anything other than running during the weeknights.

[Postal]

1) Lathan, Druid

2) PvE Advancement

3) I haven't pre-ordered and haven't decided if I will but I will grab it when I can

[Tai]

1) Tai

2) PvP to get the rest of my gear with the new honor system, and PvE in the new instances with the rest of yas.

3) I will be buying it.

[Creole Ned]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
Pretzel is my only high level character, so it would be him. I'd hope the "60-70 takes as long as 1-60" is inaccurate, though. That's just too long a stretch for 10 levels unless there are a jillion things to do in each (maybe there will be).

2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
Plenty of options.
PvE advancement. No interest in PvP, really.

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion?
I am undecided, although chances are I'll get it and have enough fun mucking around for awhile to justify the purchase.

[briggsb]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
I would take my warlock.


2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
Plenty of options.
Probably a little of everything.

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion?
I've been away from the game for a while now, and have taken on some new projects. I'm not sure I'll be able to the devote the time necessary to make it worthwhile. If I could control myself better and not play so much when I play, then I would restart.

[pogozorro]

With the expansion coming out sometime between now and the Apolcalypse, I figured it was time to just get an idea what people want to do and who they want to do it with.

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
I honestly don't know which character to take up. Likely (as much as I loathe to admit it) I will probably take my paladin. Druid is a close possibility, but we shall see. My hunter will be my fun "side" character.

2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
PVE with some Arena fun.

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion?
Haha. HAHAAHAHAAH. Ahem. Right.

[Shadowrat]

1) Puck
2) PVE Advancement
3) I have half a mind to get 2! I know my play habits say otherwise, but i did actually purchase 2 cd keys for WOW.

[Tai]

know my play habits say otherwise, but i did actually purchase 2 cd keys for WOW.

Funny, me too. :bg:

[Snake]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
As of right now, Littlepup, but that may change to Slither.

2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
Any and all? Though arena sounds really fun

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion?

I'll most likely be there the day it comes out with bells on.

[Patton]

Is there a level 70 skill called "don't break Patton's ice traps?"

That would totally rule.

:D

[Snake]

lol

[jackrabbit]

I hear there's also a level 70 skill that makes Patton show up for ZF runs.

Probably just a rumor....

/cry

[Tai]

or maybe one that would actually leave the 5th slot open for a certain priest?

[jackrabbit]

I can't think of a recent run where we didn't have a spot open and need to get a pug. You have a magical knack for showing up 27 minutes too late.

[FoeKilla]

I can't think of a recent run where we didn't have a spot open and need to get a pug. You have a magical knack for showing up 27 minutes too late.

I have 2 talent points in that skill allowing me to show up 7 minutes too late

[Tai]

I can't think of a recent run where we didn't have a spot open and need to get a pug. You have a magical knack for showing up 27 minutes too late.

yaaas, that's what I meant. leave the 5th slot open or do you think the 4 of you can't handle the early parts of most instances ;) :p

[jackrabbit]

We probably could, but it would mean Heather would have to bring her paladin or Pogo would have to bring his druid. We usually play the class we'd like to and the missing class is a healer.

And we DO keep the spot open in hopes that you or someone we know will log on, but with the number of martians with subscriptions, it doesn't happen often.

We have had pretty good luck getting people that don't suck, though. Unlike most PUG experiences.

[Tai]

I know, I'm just giving you shit and bemoaning my bad luck :) Eventually I'll get these damn quests out of my log book.

[Sir Lucius]

Let's just pretend I bought this dumb game, we're just pretending ok, as there's no way I'd be interested in selling away my soul again. And there certainly isn't anything I've seen recently to sway me otherwise.


1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
I would roll a new character. A female Draenei. Warrior. I think I could keep myself entertained with enough interesting new content that way. Plus it's a warrior -- a class required for many upper level instances. The only problem is a need a good name. Pretty Pretty Princess won't do because we have to look to the future, and one day someone may be calling me out over vent.


2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
Plenty of options.
PVE pretty much I figure. I like to explore.

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion?
But it doesn't matter since I won't be getting the expansion anyways.

Help me come up with a good name for my new character.

[Fitty]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first?
Fitty

2 - What do you want to focus on? Arena? World PVP? PVE Advancement?
PVE

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion? I am buying it

[Sir Lucius]

Actually this will work nicely. You people starting at 60 can power your way to 70 so I'll have someone to run my new 60 through instances.

I think the real question on everyone's mind is: will pogo play his allaince shaman first, or is he going to go for that water elemental?

[pogozorro]

I am going for the druidic 41 point talent, "Dire Penguin."

The shaman follows shortly thereafter.

[bridude]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first? Bridude (Thinking about rolling another class)

2 - What do you want to focus on? PVE Advancement w/pvp on the side

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion? I'll be buying it.

[Sir Lucius]

1 - Which character do you want to take to 70 first? Bridude (Thinking about rolling another class)

2 - What do you want to focus on? PVE Advancement w/pvp on the side

3 - Is there anyone not getting the Burning Crusade expansion? I'll be buying it.


You should roll a shaman, I think that would suit you.

[Circuit]

Oh, btw, Slappyjoe will be pushing to 70 in case it wasn't obvious.

[Sir Lucius]

Looking ahead, I just made my new character's name so that it wouldn't be taken by the time I got around to using it.

"Lushis"

[Patton]

I have a bottle of beer in my fridge called "Redlegg."

I thought of you.

I bet it tastes like shit.

<3

[Circuit]

Oh snap!

Also, Patton has tasted Lucius. :o

[Creole Ned]

I hereby forbid the use of the phrase "Oh snap!" unless it is used to mean "Oh snap my neck like a chicken for using the phrase 'Oh snap!'"

[Sir Lucius]

Oh snape! What did you do to Dumbledore?

[Creole Ned]

That is just clever enough to escape banning. Well played, sir.

[bridude]

Oh Break!


[USER WAS GIVEN A WEDGIE FOR THIS POST]

[FoeKilla]

Oh Break!


[USER WAS GIVEN A WEDGIE FOR THIS POST]

oh snag!

[Patton]

This is mainly just a preliminary list to see who is going where with what character in the expansion. It'll also give any potential newcomers a look at what kind of class they may want to start if they are on the fence.

I know many of you have multiple high-level alts, but please just list your primary character. The one you think you'll be taking all the way to 70 first. The list below is based on what I've heard in the past, so it may be wrong. If I forget you or I list the wrong character, post in this thread and let me know.

Druid
Kurinden (Pogo)
Postal (Postal)
Pretzel (Ned)

Warrior
Wintersound (JR)
Slappyjoe (Circuit)
Falhawk (Falhawk)
Myex (Foe)

Priest
Fitty (Fitty)

Warlock
Jolissa (Melissa)
Taitoo (Tai)
Puck (Shadowrat)

Mage
Quaron (Q)
Motean (Motean)
Pokeypoke (Paladin)

Paladin
Zurrock (Heather)
Krimet (Kermit)

Rogue
Golan (Budly)
Bridude (Bridude)

Hunter
Kurathis (Patton)
Redleg (Sir Lucius)
Sarias (Fool)
Lunatick (Tick)

I know I'm missing people and I'm probably wrong about a few characters. That Mage list seems awful short. It isn't because I don't like you (i'm a liar), I just forgot.

[Falhawk]

I'm gonna try to get Falhawk to 60 before the expansion. It'll be a stretch but I'd then like to get him to 70

warrior btw

[Patton]

Added.

I've only included active people for a reason. If you're currently not playing but you'll be picking up the expansion, let me know. Ned, Circuit, I'm looking at you.

Also, I know many of your main's (Tef and co.) are like level 30 or so. Don't know if you're going to be taking those to 70 or if you're going to bail on them or not, so I didn't add ya. If you're SURE you're going to go to 70 with it, let me know.

[jackrabbit]

I think Foe was going to play his warrior, Myex; Paladin his mage Pokeypokey; Bridude his priest Healeena; I think Tai is aiming to get Taitoo to 60 as his main, you can add Motean to the mage list; and Tick's hunter is named Lunatick.

I think Circuit (warrior (http://www.martiancartel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13123&postcount=36)) and Ned (druid (http://www.martiancartel.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12725&postcount=15)) have both hinted that they intend to buy Burning Crusade. I don't know if they intend to play regularly and/or reach 70, but it would help round us out.

[Tai]

I think Tai is aiming to get Taitoo to 60 as his main

This is true, depending upon where Taitoo is on Jan 16th. Maybe I'll play both keeping them rested. *shrug* I figure either way I will be outdistanced very quickly by the more, erm, dedicated, players. :bg:

[bridude]

Those mage numbers look low.

I will be rolling Bri.

[Patton]

Updated based on what the three of you have said.

[pogozorro]

Psst.

http://www.martiancartel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=970

[Q]

Either this thread or pogo's thread should be stickied.

[pogozorro]

Why don't I just merge the data?

Patton, for the sake of freshness, I am just going to sticky yours.

Okay, scratch that. The thread is merged (eat that, Mr. I Delete Birthday Threads!). Patton, I can always update it. Thanks for bringing it back up.

[jackrabbit]

I tried to delete the first post along with a merge. It's something no other mod has been able to pull off since Igor Kapowski was killed attempting it in '82.

But what a way to go out.

[Patton]

Thank ya.

[Avalon616]

While I definitely want to bring my lock up to 70, I also am planning on spending quite a bit of time with a Draenai char, a priest is what I've decided. I really like the play style of priests, and I kinda can't wait to play one. I would just play my dwarf priest char that I made, but I really want to play in the Draenai area.

Are we going to set up a seperate thread for those of us starting new chars for TBC?

[Fool]

I'll probably be taking Arlexis up to 70 first. Though I might also level both her and Saria at the same time, alternating between rest bonuses.

[Patton]

Are we going to set up a seperate thread for those of us starting new chars for TBC?

I don't see a need, unless those of you starting Draenei alts are going to be grouping all the time from level 1 to 20 or so before you start getting back into normal Alliance land.

Otherwise the thread's only purpose would be "hey i'm gonna play a draenei" "me too!" "we rock lets go hump."

[Tai]

or "we hump, let's go rock"

[Fool]

$10 says by the time our Dranei Shaman get to 60ish, all the loot tables for UBRS, Scholo, etc. are changed so that Shaman gear never drops.

[FoeKilla]

As stated in the very first reply to this thread, Foe will be my main. Myex's functin will be to give Wintersound a couple days off here and there.

In short, I will be playing both Myex and Foe with Foe getting the most attention.

[Patton]

I've decided that I may end up retiring Kurathis temporarily in the interest of playing a Blood Elf character on a different server. I came to the realization that I've already played the Alliance half of the game, and that there's another half of the game I haven't even touched. What better way to experience that than with a new race, as well?

This isn't for sure. It really is a tough call. I just know that I'm tired of looking at Kurathis. It's just gotten stale. I think that's why I'd go on those long hiatuses and come back only to play for a few months, start a few alts, then stop playing again. I still love playing a Hunter, so I may do that, just with a Blood Elf. I don't know. I still want to play with you guys, but argh. :(

[Circuit]

I'll play a sexy Blood Elf with you when not playing my stupid, short Gnome warrior.

[Fool]

Shit there's still plenty of alliance stuff I've never done.

[Patton]

All the Alliance side stuff I haven't done involves 20 and 40 man raids. I haven't seen AQ, or most of ZG, or BWL, or Naxx, etc. But I can see that stuff as horde if I am so inclined.

[Fool]

I suppose. You could also just make an alt that isn't a hunter. :)

[Falhawk]

horde is just plain cooler than alliance :(

although the draeni will help

[jackrabbit]

Cooler?

I suppose it's a matter of preference and opinion.

As far as the models and designs, I don't really have a preference. I like the way orcs look in armor better than any other class, I think the human male model is the worst looking one with the fewest options for variation, and I think the orc, tauren, and troll females look manly and disturbing. The orc wolf mount is probably my favorite mount. The early quest progression for horde is much easier, but they are stuck in the Barrens for 20 levels. Their cities are disorganized and difficult to traverse, but they have more character and seem more genuine than the Alliance cities.

I know that it differs per server and even by person, but on Arthas the Horde seem like a lower class of people; more willing to exploit, gank, and camp than Alliance. That's probably only a perception, but I tend to equate Arthas Horde with the people I'm forced to listen to on Xbox Live.

OMG LOL FAG.

[Falhawk]

Cooler?

I suppose it's a matter of preference and opinion.

As far as the models and designs, I don't really have a preference. I like the way orcs look in armor better than any other class, I think the human male model is the worst looking one with the fewest options for variation, and I think the orc, tauren, and troll females look manly and disturbing. The orc wolf mount is probably my favorite mount. The early quest progression for horde is much easier, but they are stuck in the Barrens for 20 levels. Their cities are disorganized and difficult to traverse, but they have more character and seem more genuine than the Alliance cities.

I know that it differs per server and even by person, but on Arthas the Horde seem like a lower class of people; more willing to exploit, gank, and camp than Alliance. That's probably only a perception, but I tend to equate Arthas Horde with the people I'm forced to listen to on Xbox Live.

OMG LOL FAG.

Most of my characters on other servers are horde.

They are always helpful. Seem to be quite experienced etc.

[jackrabbit]

Oh, I know. I have 4 horde characters on Mal'Ganis. I suppose it helps that I'm in a huge, powerful guild over there, but everyone is way more helpful than anyone has been on Arthas.

On Arthas, I try to be helpful when people aren't idiots about asking for things.

[Falhawk]

you're in another guild?

:(

[Patton]

there's nothing in the martian cartel charter about monoguildy















haha, thats awful


i am still planning on going blood elf though

torn between rogue hunter and mage

[Tick]

Considering that 61 takes twice as much XP as 60, and Ned's saying that reportedly there is no rest xp after 60, I expect to hit 70 some time in 2009. But it will be with Lunatick. Herrek will hit 60 someday, but clearly not before the expansion.

[Patton]

Kurathis is going to 70 first.

I changed my mind.

Again.

I realized that taking a Blood Elf from 1 to 70 is going to be an epic pain in the ass, and that if I start it on a brand new server, all I'm going to see is Blood Elf and Draenei. Fuck that. I'll stick with Kurathis until I get bored.

Besides, I wanna run all the new instances with you guys as we level. :D

[Creole Ned]

The "no rest XP" only applies to 60s when the expansion first launches. In other words, you won't be able to have any banked for Burning Crusade. I assume (but haven't checked) that rest XP will work normally for the rest of the 60+ game.

[jackrabbit]

Correct. 60 WoW to 60 WoW:BC = 0 Rest XP.
Once WoW:BC is released, Rest XP for 60s will continue as it does for a level 1 or a level 59.

[Fool]

Ick. At least the cool thing is that there won't be any out-pacing one another. We'll all be within 10 levels so lots of grouping.

[Tai]

I guarantee you I will be "outpaced" :) However, I don't think it will be too bad, since the latest batch of up and coming 60's means there should be 10 to 15 of us ready to go at any particular time. Woohoo!

[Kermit]

Not only that, but the selection of 60's. Sure everyone has their favorite one that they will try to level to 70 first, but if we need a class "x" and someone has a 60 collecting dust, at least they can bring him/her along.

[Tai]

True that!

Tai says: so, you want shadow damage?

Taitoo says: or more shadow damage?

[Fool]

shut up and heal me bitch

[Andri]

I've decided that I may end up retiring Kurathis temporarily in the interest of playing a Blood Elf character on a different server.(

Have you chosen a server yet? I have lowbie horde on Archimonde and Bloodscalp but never anybody to play with. :(

[Patton]

Well, I changed my mind on that, and decided to level Kurathis first. But when I do start a Blood Elf (I will eventually,) I'll bug you about it first. :)

[Creole Ned]

I have a few low level Horde characters on Aggrimar.

[Andri]

How about we pick one server where we can all play together? I can transfer one of my chars if need be. Or level a new one... it's not like they are already 60. More like 16ish. I think I have a lvl 33 warrior on Bloodscalp. That must be my highest.

But like Patton, I'll level my priest to 70 first.

[Creole Ned]

Well, to say I am a casual player is an understatement, so my input shouldn't count for anything, really. :)

I will say that if I play Horde characters, it will only be on a normal server, not a PvP one. I expect to be in the minority there, but so be it. As I said -- casual.

[Circuit]

I would be totally willing to play Horde on a PvE server. I'm sick to death of random, irritatingly inconvenient, quest-stopping ganking that goes on every time I play my lowbies. I love PvP and I've probably put disgustingly more hours in the battlegrounds than anyone here, but I can't stand Blizzard's world PvP crap.

[Patton]

I'm ok with it being on a PvE server.

[Andri]

Yeah but then I can't kill the evil horde who are trying to snatch the Black Lotus from under my nose! I wish often enough that I could kill alliance when they do that! :mad: It is also oddly satisfying when you actually win after you were jumped by horde. Our problem is that we do not ourselves enjoy jumping unassuming other players and therefore miss out on THAT part of the satisfaction... in addition to giving away our best advantage of winning. There you have it: we are just too nice. :o

Ok, I don't really care about being on a PvP server either. Just name where you want to play. You bet, though, that I am going to be a super hot Bloodelf chick!

[Creole Ned]

It might be fun to start out on a new server. Low population, new economy. I've heard some more will be going up with the launch of The Burning Crusade and they just added six in the past week or so.

[FoeKilla]

Yeah but then I can't kill the evil horde who are trying to snatch the Black Lotus from under my nose! I wish often enough that I could kill alliance when they do that! :mad: It is also oddly satisfying when you actually win after you were jumped by horde. Our problem is that we do not ourselves enjoy jumping unassuming other players and therefore miss out on THAT part of the satisfaction... in addition to giving away our best advantage of winning. There you have it: we are just too nice. :o

Ok, I don't really care about being on a PvP server either. Just name where you want to play. You bet, though, that I am going to be a super hot Bloodelf chick!

speak for your God-Damned self!!!!

you can shove nice up your fucking ass!!

[Budly]

:lol:

[Circuit]

The fact that you can jump on unsuspecting players, regardless of level, and kill them makes me hate WoW's world PvP system. People justify it by going on about how "it's war!" and whatnot, but what they really mean is "I want to be a jerk".

[Orion]

I agree with circuit. I'd be willing to play a horde char on PvE. if i really want to do PVP, I can battleground it up.

[Tick]

I would be up for starting a horde character on a PvE server.

[FoeKilla]

The fact that you can jump on unsuspecting players, regardless of level, and kill them makes me hate WoW's world PvP system. People justify it by going on about how "it's war!" and whatnot, but what they really mean is "I want to be a jerk".

working as intended

Blizzard wanted me to be a jerk, and I'll be damned if I'm not good at it:wavey:

[Tai]

Being nice usually has them waiting til you are at half health and THEN jumping you. I fail to see the reason to give them that advantage any more.

[FoeKilla]

oh, by the way - when this game came out, I was the one who started on a RP server becuase I had to interest in PvP. You made me the animal I am. It's all your fault.

and I'd be willing to play on a PvE server too.


but as long as we're on a PvP server if it's red, it's dead. I attack anyone in range. If they aren't in range, I'll move to get them in range.

[Tai]

What you doing tonight Foe, I feel a real urge to kill something.

[Patton]

oh, by the way - when this game came out, I was the one who started on a RP server becuase I had to interest in PvP. You made me the animal I am. It's all your fault.

and I'd be willing to play on a PvE server too.


but as long as we're on a PvP server if it's red, it's dead. I attack anyone in range. If they aren't in range, I'll move to get them in range.

this is why i like foe

i also started on a PvE character - all three of my level 50+ characters on Gilneas had never touched a horde character with an offensive ability

now i use arcane shot on level 25 shamans

i don't make excuses like "it happened to me, this is payback"

no, not at all

i'm a jerk, they're horde, i hate them

[Kermit]

I am not willing to start any characters on a new server.

I do have a couple of mid 30's on Aggramar. Alliance. If I go horde, it will be there as I have non-MC friends who still like to hang out on that Care Bear server.

Also, I refuse to see ganking as being a jerk. It's the rules of the game that we chose to play. That's why Blizzard has PvE servers. If you are a Horde that hates getting ganked, roll one up there.

Camping however is right out.

[jackrabbit]

I can take or leave killing players. It usually is based on my mood and motivations.

If I'm in Silithus grinding rep, and a horde is nearby also grinding rep, I leave them alone, particularly if they are lower level. If they get too close to me, I'll err on the side of caution and either sap them and say "No." or kill them. If they jump me or anyone else, I kill them (or attempt to).

Normally, I won't kill people if I'm soloing unless given a reason to.

if I'm in a group and they are in a group, the same level as me, or higher, I kill on sight. Maybe we'll get lucky, they'll call in friends, and we'll have ourselves a party.

If I see Horde near an instance entrance, or in a lower level zone than they should be, or otherwise acting suspicious, I kill them. Or if they are shaman I can get honor from, I kill them. I'll kill anyone that attacks me first, regardless of level, and I'll support anyone getting killed by a lower level horde (like if two level 30s are duking it out, I'll throw the Alliance a heal, or stun the enemy if it looks like he'll win).

If a higher level Alliance attacks a lower level Horde, I don't help them, but I won't suggest that they stop.

I pretty much play the way I want to.

I'd play on a PvE server, but only to continue to hang out with you guys. I likely wouldn't play there much, or even past 35-40 where the game is essentially the same for both sides. I have too much invested in Arthas and no real desire to start over again.

[Patton]

yea i mostly just want to experience the other half of the game

[Budly]

I don't remember who all was in the group but we were in ungoro and headed to marshal's to turn in stuff. At the entrance was a 60 who we immediately aggroed, beat down, and killed. Then we realized that he had been doing the escort quest and was that close to being done. There was a second of silence, then total outbursts of laughter on vent.

We've all been there and seriously, it can piss me off, but I can't imagine that a non pvp server can hold that same bit of unknown that pvp does.

[Circuit]

working as intended

Blizzard wanted me to be a jerk, and I'll be damned if I'm not good at it:wavey:

I'd argue that it's not working as intended, just as designed. Blizzard's original intentions were to have an actual honor system and not what we have now. But either way, it's not like I have any real moral objection with the whole thing, I just think only assholes harrass other players that are in no position to do anything about it besides logging out. Only assholes mind control another player and make them fall to their death multiple times. Basically, if you're wasting my time just to harrass me, you're being an asshole, plain and simple.

I don't care so much about getting killed by a wandering 60 every so often. That's no big deal and it's not what I mean by harrass. It's slightly irritating, but I revive and go about my business. It's those who go out of their way to actively alter my gameplay experience that I have a problem with and Blizzard has no mechanism in place to prevent it or even discourage it in the least. "Don't kill citizen NPCs and don't gank from rooftops" are pretty much the only rules WoW has at all for PvP.

[jackrabbit]

"Don't kill citizen NPCs and don't gank from rooftops" are pretty much the only rules WoW has at all for PvP.

You're only half right. They took out Dishonorable NPC Kills in 2.0.

[FoeKilla]

I notice that you didn't refute me being a jerk.

[Q]

I notice that you didn't refute me being a jerk.
No one would be silly enough to do that.

[Circuit]

Foe, I wuv you! Yes with a "w"!

[Fool]

I would just be satisfied if Blizzard would add level 65 guards to our towns, because I'm tired of being destroyed in Astranaar and Southshore while the horde rest in their comfy towns.

[Falhawk]

have you considered whining less?

[Fool]

You're the ying to my yang

[Falhawk]

that's pretty hot

[jackrabbit]

I'd also like to see Shaman "Far Sight" fixed so they can't cap flags from anywhere they can see them.

It may be the only way Horde can win AV, though.

[Circuit]

Is that what they're doing? I heard lots of chatter last night in our AV about how the Horde were "cheating as ususal!!!!", but I never saw exactly what they were doing. That's a pretty serious exploit. Although, we still won anyway.

[Andri]

I would just be satisfied if Blizzard would add level 65 guards to our towns, because I'm tired of being destroyed in Astranaar and Southshore while the horde rest in their comfy towns.

Your wish was granted, it seems. In many areas the guards have been upgraded to lvl 65. I noticed this with horror the last time I rode straight through the horde camp in Feralas on my way to DM. I don't know, however, whether Astranaar is one of the places that has lvl 65 guards now.

[Tai]

Heh, funny, I did the same thing in Ferelas. Last I checked, Southshore and Astrannar were still wimpy guards. Tauren Mill on the other hand, HAD upgrdaed guards Lvl 65.

[Fool]

Your wish was granted, it seems. In many areas the guards have been upgraded to lvl 65. I noticed this with horror the last time I rode straight through the horde camp in Feralas on my way to DM. I don't know, however, whether Astranaar is one of the places that has lvl 65 guards now.

The two 60's slaughtering alliance n00bs there last night for 3 hours say otherwise.

[Patton]

i kill level 65 horde guards in my sleep

with my pet

naked

[Kermit]

Isn't your pet supposed to be naked?

You should get some xp for guard kills. Ok, maybe only half or less for an equivalent mob, but some...

[Andri]

Foe, you are a total jerk. That's why I love you. But see... I want to keep the PRETENSE of being nice. I want to be like Caine... walk around looking harmless, preach love and happiness, since some Kumbayah... and when somebody attacks me smack em in the nuts taht they can't tell anymore whether they are boy or girl. Or in other words: I want to win despite them having the advantage.

Unfortunately, I suck at PvP. That's why I have to revert to being nice and whine about getting ganked instead of melting faces. :)

[Falhawk]

can we update the roster and breakdown by class?

might make instance group planning a bit easier

[Patton]

The following needs to be updated:

Druid
Kurinden (Pogo)
Lathan (Postal)
Pretzel (Ned)

Warrior
Wintersound (JR)
Slappyjoe (Circuit)
Falhawk (Falhawk)
Thodred (Q)

Priest
Fitty (Fitty)
Agramir (DrJonez)
Tai (Tai)

Warlock
Jolissa (Melissa)
Taitoo (Tai)
Puck (Shadowrat)
Foe (Foe)

Mage
Quaron (Q)
Motean (Orion)
Pokeypokey (Paladin)
Arlexis (Fool)
Gloinstinen (Teflonatron)

Paladin
Zurrock (Heather)
Krimet (Kermit)

Rogue
Golan (Budly)
Bridude (Bridude)
Ikeva (Pumpkin King)
Slither (Snake)
Llydia (JR)

Hunter
Kurathis (Patton)
Lunatick (Tick)




Let me know if your info needs to be changed. Since this is Pogo's thread now, he'll need to update it. The above data is based on previous posts and who I've seen playing lately. It also requires that people be signed up on the web site. Everyone above has a forum account. There are still some people in the guild (even higher level people) who have not signed up. If you're friends with these people, tell them to get registered. It's going to be hard to plan the bigger runs if people aren't aware of them.

I know many of you have multiple 60s and will be switching out as needed, but the above is who you'd prefer to play.


PS: This is exactly 25 people. :D

[Falhawk]

we only have two priests :(

[Patton]

Yeah, but we also have two Paladins, and I know we have access to more high level priests. Tai and Gundar, specifically. Tai is no longer a chump at healing. He was doing really well last night in Hellfire Ramparts, and he is still shadow spec.

But like I said, we shouldn't be forcing people to play a class they don't want to play. Within reason, we'll just have to make it work for instance runs if the group isn't ideal. Just not to the extreme.

2 Warlocks, a Hunter, a Mage, and a Warrior isn't going to work, for example. But 2 Warlocks, a Hunter, a Mage and a Druid might.

[Budly]

If needed I have no problem bringing in my mage or warrior either. But man it sure is fun to play rogue again even if I hate the spec.

[Q]

we only have two priests :(
That's not as important as the total number of healing classes. Priests really aren't any better at healing than Druids and Paladins can come awfully close. In some cases, I would say that Druids are better than Priests (see: Nature's Swiftness and Innervate).

And while my focus will be on Quaron and Thodred, I don't mind busting out Gundar once in a while if needed.

[Falhawk]

that's very true

[Tai]

I have a priest. As I have stated, I *will* be levelling Tai and Taitoo. I don't care whether you list Tai under Priest or Warlock, but please add him as a participent. Thank you :)

[Patton]

I don't care who you're leveling.

I care who you prefer playing more.

[Tai]

I don't care who you're leveling.

I care who you prefer playing more.

Last night I preferred playing Tai, because that rounded out the group well for the instance. :bg:

[Patton]

Even when I'm being nice, I'm being mean, I've realized.

I'll put you down with both. And I'll do the same for anyone who requests it.

Please list the Class and the name of the Character you'd like me to add.

Please only list sub-60 characters if they are your only character or your main character.

[Falhawk]

I'd like to see us put together some scheduled groups for instance runs. I know we all want to hit level 70 and do the large raids...but we need to try and progress as a group. 25 man raids will suck if only 5 people are geared for it.

[Tai]

Even when I'm being nice, I'm being mean, I've realized.

I'll put you down with both. And I'll do the same for anyone who requests it.

*love* I do appreciate the sentiment and the attempt though. :)

[jackrabbit]

Patton, I'd like to be listed with Llydia as well. There are so many warriors to tank, and if Pogo will be tanking with his druid while Fitty heals, I like the option of filling a different role.

[Q]

I'd like to see us put together some scheduled groups for instance runs. I know we all want to hit level 70 and do the large raids...but we need to try and progress as a group. 25 man raids will suck if only 5 people are geared for it.
I'm really in no rush for 70. I'm enjoying all the new content and playing instances for the first time with everyone.

Also, please add Thodred under warriors.

[Tai]

I'm with Q, I am enjoying the adventuring aspect :) I can't count the number of times I've said "oooooooo" over the last 48 hours.

[Patton]

I'm agree. I'm not rushing, though I know you guys think I am. I just got a head start. :)

[Q]

I'm agree. I'm not rushing, though I know you guys think I am. I just got a head start. :)
You're 62 already! None of my characters are even 1/5 of the way through 60 :p.

[Fool]

I'm with Q, I am enjoying the adventuring aspect :) I can't count the number of times I've said "oooooooo" over the last 48 hours.

have you seen Potland yet?

[Patton]

You're 62 already! None of my characters are even 1/5 of the way through 60 :p.

Yeah yeah. :P

I'm sure you guys will catch up quick enough. I'm trying to hold off on starting Zangarmarsh until more people are ready to join me (Saturday is when I'll be hitting it hard, if anyone is getting close.) Plus, this week has been an odd one. I seriously doubt I'll be able to put nearly as much time in to the game in the future.

And I still need to finish my Ramparts quest and get the Furnace quest. :/

[Falhawk]

I find that I'm able to get a lot of the quests done in the morning before I go to work. Even in just 30 minutes I can get a lot done because of the low server pop etc.


I might be on this weekend somewhat sporadically. I'm looking towards monday night for my next crack at the instance. In the meantime I'll be cleaning out my quest log.

[Tai]

have you seen Potland yet?

only in Pogo's screenshots. Visiting that area is going to be a real trip!

[Patton]

What's Potland?

[Tai]

I assumed he meant the land all covered in glowing mushrooms since as far as I know, there exists no cullinary school on Arthas.

[Patton]

That would be Zangarmarsh.

[Tai]

Hrm, yeah, afraid I won't be ready by Sat. My lock is half way to 61, and my priest only a third or so.

[Patton]

You don't have to be level 62 for it. I would just suggest doing all the quests in Hellfire Peninsula first.

[Fool]

I'm hoping to hit 62 tonight.

[jackrabbit]

I stayed home to play today. I made level 64. I managed to beat the Fel Dragons in Hushspring Falls by using frost resist gear. They are arcane immune!


*made up info*

[Fool]

I started a blood elf on Vener or whatever last night and had a Hibernia flashback.

[jackrabbit]

I don't know what the name of the server is, but from now on, in my head, it will always be "Vener" spoken in a thick German accent.

[Tai]

proper spelling would be Weiner. (you have to capitalize nouns).

[Circuit]

Uh, "W" isn't a noun.

[jackrabbit]

Oh yeah? And I suppose you're German all of a sudden, Circ?

[Circuit]

Yeah. It was a pretty startling transformation, actually. :o